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INTERVIEW

The Newshound from Enterprise Goes to Tinseltown

BY JOHN SCHRAG
jschrag@wweek.com

photo by Ben Guzman


There's this mentality of "let's not do anything about the Legislature, let's not do anything about Snake River." It is almost inadvertent censorship.

The past couple years of Mike Rich's life have, appropriately enough, seemed a bit like a Hollywood movie. Like a lot of movie buffs, the KINK-FM news director had unsuccessfully shopped around a screenplay. His luck changed dramatically in 1998, when his script was one of five picked from 4,500 entries in the prestigious Nicholl Fellowship. Before he knew it, Finding Forrester was sold to Sony/Columbia for six figures, and the man who once chased midnight fires for KGW radio was yukking it up with Sean Connery. The movie, about a relationship between a reclusive novelist and a young athlete, is headed for a Christmas Day release. Rich's second script, just accepted by Disney, is about a high-school baseball coach turned big-league pitcher (who may be played by George Clooney).

After two years of shuttling between PDX and LAX, Rich decided to hang up his microphone. Last Thursday, a day before his final newscast on KINK, he sat down with WW news editor John Schrag to talk about the state of radio news in Portland.

WW: From what I remember you telling me, Forrester is set in the big city of New York.

Mike Rich: Yes. The Bronx and Manhattan.

And it's about a relationship between a white guy and an African-American youth. You live in the whitest major city in the nation. Where did that plot line come from?

I have no idea [laughs]. It kind of shoots to hell the "write what you know" theory. I've never been to the Bronx. Still, I've had more people tell me, "You just captured the essence." They assumed I was either from the Bronx or had been there many, many times.

So where did you grow up?

Enterprise, Oregon. Population 2,000.

All 2,000 white?

Oh, absolutely. It's funny because one of the other projects we were kicking around would also have featured a cast that is very heavy on African Americans. The producers just laughed and said, "Mike Rich, voice of black America."

When did you come to the
big city?

I came down here to KGW in '82 from Spokane, where I'd worked for King Broadcasting. When I came on board, it was the glory days of KGW radio. Craig Walker was there and it was No. 1 on the radio. Talk-music format. KEX was No. 2, and between the two of them, they shared 20 percent of the radio audience in Portland.

What's your take on the current status of radio news?

It has just become less of a priority for all stations. Even to a certain degree the AM stations have become much more bottom-line driven.

And news is expensive because...?

News is expensive because of bodies, to do it right. When I started at KGW, we had a news staff of seven, which you just don't see anymore.

How unusual is it for an FM
rock station to have a news staff?

Extremely unusual. But when I came to KINK seven years ago, there were a lot of FM stations that had news. Certainly most of them had news in the morning, and a lot of them had news in the afternoons.

Within our industry there's lots of discussion about corporate ownership and the loss of the family-owned newspapers and broadcast outlets. You lived through that change, when the Bullit family sold King Broadcasting, including KGW and the other stations. Was there really a difference?

Yeah, there was. The Bullit sisters were that rare breed of broadcaster who wanted to be community servants. It wasn't just lip, it wasn't just talk. If there were stations in the group that were losing money, which there always were, then they had other stations pick up the slack. So you very rarely changed formats. They believed in it.

So what's it like being owned
by Infinity?

For KINK it hasn't been as noticeable, because the station's doing well. But were the station to fall on hard times...

Have you spent any time listening to KPAM (840 AM)?

Yeah. I admire what they are doing. I heard Bill Gallagher do an entire show on the breaching of Snake River dams. That's commendable. Whether there is an audience, I don't know.

I've talked to local broadcasters who say they have to be taking a beating financially. Their ratings are horrible.

Well, they are a start-up AM talk station; it's going to take them awhile. From what I understand, [owner] Bob Pamphlin sounds like he's committed to this. He's going to have to be patient with it.

What don't you like when you look at the local news radio scene?

With a few exceptions, reporters rely on other sources too much for their product. The newspaper. Television stations. One thing I always prided KINK on, and still do, is advancing stories. For a long, long time, when we had a full-time reporter, we had a rule: If it was in the daily paper, you couldn't report on it. Or, if it was a story we couldn't ignore, you damn well better find another spin on it. Advance it or you better give me another take. There are a lot of radio stations that don't have that policy.

In the newspaper industry, a lot of folks fret about the fact that there's a generation of young people out there who don't seem terribly interested in the traditional type of news that's been offered. Is it the same in radio?

It's not just radio, it's television. There's this mentality of "let's not do anything about the Legislature, let's not do anything about Snake River." It is almost inadvertent censorship. The only way that you can become interested in a subject is to learn. In the past, it was presented to you. And you might find a subject of interest to you because of the fact that it was spoon-fed to you. Now I hear, "Well, the audience isn't interested in the Legislature, and we aren't going to give it to them." Well, that's a cop-out.

A cop-out because...?

There are some things that people do need to know.

But is it really our responsibility to decide what people should hear?

It is our responsibility to make certain that we present that in a compelling, informative manner. Lord knows, you can do a Snake River breaching story so your eyes will glaze over. But with Gallagher, I found myself more interested in the subject.

So you don't think it's arrogant to say to listeners, "You like crime stories, but we're going to give you environment"?

No, it's not arrogant to say that. In fact, it's a cop-out when we don't, because you know what? A crime story is easy pickin's. Stories on the Legislature are much harder.

But isn't there a risk that when you report on term limits, rather than the crime of the day, people will switch the dial?

Of course. But I don't think it absolves you of your responsibility to do that.

 


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