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Stream of Consciousness
Seattle writer Sherman Alexie shows us the real deal about being an American Indian--and guess what? There's no channeling, peace pipes or peyote involved. This culture junkie talks about his brushes with Hollywood, his favorite television show and the strange things white people do to him at readings.

BY SUSAN WICKSTROM
243-2122 EXT. 328


Interview sidebar: Sherman Alexie Speaks!

Alexie will read from
The Toughest Indian in the World
at Twenty-third Avenue Books,
1015 NW 23rd Ave., 224-6203.
7:30 pm Thursday, May 11.
Free. It's a small store, so get there early!

Alexie mentors young writers through the Sundance Institute and the Independent
Film Program.

Alexie says he's too liberal to be a Democrat.

If Alexie weren't a professional storyteller, he says he'd probably be a high-school basketball coach.

Alexie's favorite movie is Midnight Cowboy. "I'm as homoerotic as the next straight guy," he confesses.

Alexie subscribes to more than 80 magazines and has four televisions.Alexie isn't
bothered by Indian casinos, and he doesn't mind if you ask him about them--everyone else does.


When Sherman Alexie reads his work publicly, anything can happen. The Spokane/Coeur d'Alene Indian author may juggle, sing, do magic tricks or become irrational. At his legendary 1992 debut reading at Elliott Bay Books in his own town of Seattle, the normally sedate, bespectacled Alexie posed as a drunken American Indian who had staggered in off the street, causing the uncomfortable crowd to shift their liberal white asses on their chairs.

"It's fun to get walked out on," he says. "People don't know what to do at my readings. I don't fit into anybody's paradigms." If Alexie's audiences don't know quite what to expect from him, it may be because they don't understand who he is. He is a stellar storyteller, entertainer and prankster, but he is also an ordinary guy who happens to be an Indian.

In a land where white writers exploit American Indians to give their own fiction an exotic, metaphysical air, Alexie delivers the truth about the Indian experience. He writes about poverty, alcoholism, cancer and government cheese. But he didn't rise to fame solely on the trendy stilts of multiculturalism. He would be a revered writer no matter what; the guy can turn a phrase as smoothly as changing TV channels with a remote control. His breakthrough 1992 book of dazzling short stories, The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven, told hilarious and heartbreaking tales of reservation life. Though he was already an established poet, that book pushed him into the mainsteam, and Granta granted him the coveted Best American Writers Under 40 feather. In his new book, The Toughest Indian in the World, he applies his edgy, meta-postmodern, avant-garde style to the plight of urban Indians throughout the Northwest. Toss two novels and a movie into his collection of work, and Alexie has become a voice for his generation and people. But his Indian-ness creates some freaky circumstances in his public life among the palefaces.

"One time," he recalls, "a woman grabbed my hands, thrust them under her breasts, and told me to heal her." Perhaps she thought that by virtue of being an American Indian, Alexie secretes some invisible kind of goo that reveals the mysteries of life and cures the ills of the world. But he isn't a magical shaman practicing some ancient healing rituals, he's just a regular dude who battles Indian stereotypes in his work as well as in person.

Like many successful Seattleites just past 30, Alexie is immersed in modern, popular American culture. Instead of gazing into a magic crystal for divine messages, he looks into his miniature DVD player. He's a computer-carrying member of the Apple tribe--meaning Macintosh worshipers, not the derogatory insiders' term for Indians who are red on the outside but white on the inside. His favorite ceremony is eating Grape Nuts in the morning. Some people may believe Alexie channels his cultural insight through a direct line from the Great Spirit, but it's just as likely a result of his voracious, lifelong appetite for current movies, television and publications.

Alexie was born and raised on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Eastern Washington; back then he never dreamed he would be where he is today. "I grew up in poverty with a very uncertain next week, let alone uncertain rest of my life," he says. "The life I wanted was basically having a job and food in the fridge." He survived hydrocephalus and brain surgery as an infant, which forced him to work hard to strengthen his mental powers: He learned to read at age 2 and tackled Steinbeck at 5. After battling classmates' taunts--he had a huge head and wore geeky glasses--as well as alcoholism and the culture shock of leaving the reservation for college, he finally found his voice as a writer.

"Every moment is beyond what I could have ever expected," he says about his life. "I'm crossing through so many worlds now. There's the academic-literary world where I'm treated with all sorts of respect. And then movies, where there's a general celebrity thing going on."

Alexie is sailing smoothly into the Hollywood scene, riding on the accolades of his screenplay for Smoke Signals, a film based on a story from The Lone Ranger and Tonto that won critical acclaim as well as two Sundance Film Festival Awards. Next, he will direct the movie version of his novel Reservation Blues, which presents new challenges. "In the book world," he says, "by now they'll publish my grocery list. I have a lot of power in that, but I have none in the movie world. I feel like a peon, and I hate having to wait for people to say yes to get a movie going."

To Alexie, the film industry is a very interpersonal business based on friendships. "I've discovered that simple politeness goes a long way," he says. "In the book world, I have a reputation for arrogance--and I certainly am in a lot of ways. In the movie world, I'm Prince Valiant; it's amazing in comparison how polite I am."

As Alexie Eddie Haskells his way through the "meetings and meetings and meetings and meetings" that will get his movie beyond pre-pre-production, he continues with his ordinary life in Seattle, which he claims is quite mundane.

"I'm really introverted and pretty much a loner," he says. "My peer group are not writers or artists, they're lawyers and accountants and librarians. I don't go out or hang out anywhere." Alexie spends time with his family, plays basketball with his buddies on Tuesday nights, and buries himself in stories. He sees five or six movies a week and indulges in a delicious diet of television.

"My favorite TV show is Emergency Vet," he reveals. "It devastates me. The first one I saw, this really old man, whose wife had died the month before, brought in his bassett hound who was also ancient. He had to put the hound down," he groans, "and you know the old guy wasn't going to last long without his wife and his dog. He was the loneliest person on the planet sitting there. I cried for three days."

Alexie relies on stories to inspire him. "When I write," he says, "I usually have something going on the CD player, something playing on the TV, and magazines and books lying around that I'll pick up and read a little bit from. I'll have as much stuff in the air as possible."

Bob Maull, owner of Twenty-third Avenue Books in Northwest Portland, agrees that Alexie has tapped into the universal storytelling vein. Maull has seen a slew of authors spin through the revolving door of publishing to read in his store, including Alexie three or four times. "In terms of sheer entertainment value," he says, "Sherman is one of the best. People come to be entertained by him as much as hear his work. He's very aware of that." But he believes Alexie has matured since the first time he saw him read in 1992. "I think he always knows what he's doing, but he gives more thought to what he says today."

Those attending Alexie's Portland reading of The Toughest Indian in the World should expect anything from the enigmatic author. But they probably won't find an exasperated Indian fed up with white wannabes this time. "It's early in the tour," he says. "I'll still be nice."


KENNEWICK MAN: Another white guy who got lost.

THE NEW AGE: It has become institutionalized and corporate now, to the point where people are moving on to goofier things, like gopher worship or something.

NORTHERN EXPOSURE: I miss it. My wife and I courted over that show.

BARBARA KINGSOLVER: Who?

HIP-HOP: I'm glad I'm older. It's not meant for me.

Oprah: Thank god for Oprah. Choose me! Choose me!

AMERICAN SPIRIT CIGARETTES: Ridiculous.

EDWARD S. CURTIS: The Indians are only smiling immediately before and immediately after he snaps the photograph. Nice photographs, but artificial.

TELETUBBIES: Evil. My son loves them but they kind of scare me.

NRA: Archaic. Their worship of the Constitution, that has otherwise been fixed and changed in all ways except for that one area of it, is amazing to me when it was such an elitist document. The thing I'm glad about with the NRA is that they may end up shooting each other.




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Willamette Week | originally published April 26, 2000

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