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INTERVIEW
Legend in His Own Mind
Johnny Legend kicked it with Andy Kaufman, learned life lessons from "Classy" Freddie Blassie and directed the one and only Johnny Wadd. After trolling the murky backwaters of American culture for decades, the rockabilly madman unleashes his most psychotic show ever on Portland.

BY ZACH DUNDAS
zdundas@wweek.com

Johnny Legend and his Rockabilly Bastards, Lucky 13s, Asthma Hounds
Berbati's Pan 231 SW Ankeny St., 248-4579
10 pm Thursday, Aug. 19
$6

If American culture is ruled by a sect of high priests, Johnny Legend may be its chief, its cardinal, its ascended master. How many people can name-drop pro-wrestling demi-god "Classy" Freddie Blassie, epochally endowed porn icon John "Johnny Wadd" Holmes, comic genius Andy Kaufman and film nerd par excellence Quentin Tarantino in the same conversation? Legend can--and he's not just some pomo hipster talking coffee-shop smack. When Legend spiels at his rapid-fire hustler's pace, he's reporting live from pop culture's shadow side.

In the early '70s, Johnny Legend directed Teenage Cruisers, an X-rated rockabilly epic featuring Holmes. When Blassie needed an anthem, Legend served up "Pencil Neck Geek." Legend directed Kaufman's final movie, My Breakfast with Blassie. Lately, the self-styled Rock 'n' Roll Rasputin hooked up with Tarantino to reissue Legend's favorite exploitation flicks and assembled the psychotronic grappling show Incredibly Strange Wrestling.

On the eve of an appearance with his band the Rockabilly Bastards, Johnny Legend breaks it down for WW from his home base, deep in the heart of what he calls "the Hell-A territories,"--in other words, Los Angeles.

Willamette Week: So, before we get into movies, wrestling and so on, can you tell us what to expect from your show?

Johnny Legend: Well, the show is pretty much a psychotic rock revival--90 minutes of insanity. I wear some sequined vests originally made for Freddie Blassie--this is original Blassie wear we're talking about, not just some glittery somethin' from someone who happens to make that stuff. I've never had to deal with a tailor. I just get my stuff from the source.

Last year I formed this band with some Portland guys, with this guitarist named John Wallace and some of the guys in the Flapjacks. I had to cover that territory up there, from Portland up to Vancouver, and I figured the easiest way to do it was to get a band together up there. I've got bands all over the world--I've had a band in Germany for years. With the Portland guys, people immediately thought we'd been together for five years. I try to find musicians who can act like they've been together forever. This isn't some Chuck Berry pick-up band.

So we're talking about some serious rockabilly here, then?

Well, my roots are mixed. I was playing the Sunset Strip back in the glory days, and then in the early '70s I started what was then the only performing rockabilly band in America that we knew of, or the first one since the '50s, anyway: the Rollin' Rock Rebels. We had Ray Campi on bass, Billy Zoom was in there, and we had five or six singers. We were pretty much a self-contained rockabilly time bomb. These days, I'm mostly doing originals with a few great obscure old songs, like "High School Caesar" from the old juvenile-delinquent movie. I do a version of "Pretty Thing" because it's a good excuse to get into this long, tribal, sex-charged freakout.

In there somewhere is something that appeals to the rockabilly die-hards. I pretty much get along with all the different factions--someone who's into more Cramps-like material might not like traditional rockabilly, and a rockabilly purist might not like the crazier stuff, but they all can get into me. I use a wrestling mentality and just ride herd over all of 'em.

Let's talk about wrestling. It seems like there are a few different elements of American culture you're weaving together.

Well, yeah. I grew up as a fan of different things--horror movies, comic books, rock 'n' roll--and wrestling was part of it. I came to wrestling in the era between the glory days of the early '50s and the sort of Hulk Hogan stuff that's made it totally ridiculous again. So I was following wrestling when it was very regional, when it was in its very pure form and the audiences were these strange people who really believed.

Freddie Blassie came into town like this huge, Jerry Lee Lewis-like presence and really just changed the lives of all of us who got to see him. And Andy Kaufman, he started doing his wrestling thing when it was completely taboo in respectable show biz to have anything to do
with wrestling. Then, after he died, boom--everyone was lining up to get into wrestling.

Yeah, the Cyndi Lauper era in the WWF came right after that. Do you follow any of the mainstream pro wrestling, the WWF or WCW?

Yeah, I keep up with it. I know people from the old days who are involved in both the major organizations. It's funny, because we'll do something with Incredibly Strange Wrestling and six months later it'll show up on TV. I had a porn-star wrestler, and then later the WWF brings out its Val Venus character. Come to find out the writer who created Val Venus was going to our shows before he got hired by them.

Talk to me about Incredibly Strange Wrestling.

Incredibly Strange Wrestling--that's hard to pull off, because it's an elaborate thing. It's almost like a special occasion. We basically have to corral an amount of action that would ordinarily take up two or three nights into one. We just did an event with nine bands in two rooms, squeezing the matches in between the bands. I can fit so many wrestling matches into the amount of time it takes a typical rock band to set up its gear, you wouldn't believe it.

Did wrestling lead naturally to your film career, or was that a separate thing?

I was making films when I was a kid, and later on in life I got to do the musical scores for some skinflicks in the pre-Deep Throat era, when the movies were really a lot more elaborate. By the '70s I was co-starring in stuff like Pot, Parents and Police, and in the '80s I was in Star Slammer, which was the first women's-prison-in-outer-space movie. I had a part in Children of
the Corn III
that I was very proud of. Lately, I've been working on DVD reissues of old Jack Hill movies, like The Swinging Cheerleaders. That's pretty much the archetypal '70s cheerleader movie. I'm putting some of my own stuff, like Weird Cartoons and Rock and Roll Wrestling, out on DVD too.

Good Lord, man, how do you fit it all in?

I always say I'm a full-time rock-'n'-roll beast. Everything else just sort of works around the fringes. In the last couple of years, I've really buckled down. I've got two albums out in a year and a half. I feel like I'm in high school, about 17 years old, and I've got a new band out playing in clubs. This is not a revival show--there's something real primal and fascinating going on with these shows. I cross over into another personality. I'll ask people afterward what happened during a set, and they think I'm crazy. But that's something I've watched happen with wrestlers for years. I warn people that I'm not going to be the same person on stage that I am hanging out at the bar. Don't ask me obscure questions, don't expect a normal response.

And, man, I'll tell you--there's been a weird thing happening lately at the shows. I can't explain it. Women have been getting crazy.

What on earth do you mean, "getting crazy"?

Well, women have been coming unglued during the sets. They've been doing all kinds of physical things during the shows that I don't think they do on a regular basis. We had this show in Whittier--that's Richard Nixon's hometown--last Friday, and I thought we were going to get arrested.

Why? Because of what the women were doing?

They were squatting in front of the stage and...I don't know, it was wild. And I'll play harmonica solos anywhere--anywhere I'm invited to go, let's just say. There have been times I've been worried about physical violence from boyfriends and husbands, but so far that hasn't happened. In fact, this guy came up with his girlfriend the other night and said, hey, man, you gonna do what you did the other night again? And I just said, man, what are you gonna do when she starts to like it?

So, uh, with all this going on, do you have an overall mission?

No, man--I just say, throw away the Bible and let's get tribal. Because I'll tell you what, there is this real primitive explosion that happens. I don't know what exactly sets it off, but I've obviously found the way to spark it, that's for sure.

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Willamette Week | originally published August 18, 1999

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