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INTERVIEW
For Those About to Rock
We salute the Chicken Hawks and Electric Frankenstein, two bands out to rescue the planet from lame-ass rock 'n' roll.

BY CARYN B. BROOKS AND JOHN GRAHAM
cbrooks@wweek.com, jgraham@wweek.com

The Weaklings, The Chicken Hawks, New American Mob, The Viles
Satyricon, 125 NW 6th Ave., 243-2380 10 pm
Thursday, April 1, $5

Electric Frankenstein, Fireballs of Freedom, The Watts

EJ''s, 2140 NE Sandy Blvd., 234-3535
10 pm Saturday, April 3, $6

Iowa's Chicken Hawks and New Jersey's Electric Frankenstein are brothers in arms fighting for the soul of rock 'n' roll. Lucky for us, the alignment of the planets has ensured that both bands will hit Portland within days of each other. WW seized the opportunity to see just how well their twin powers activate. Chicken Hawks guitarist Pete Phillips and Sal Canzonieri, guitarist of Electric Frankenstein, spoke to us from their respective home states.

WW: Why should anyone give a shit about you?

PP: The Chicken Hawks, along with a handful of other bands in America right now, are trying to revive rock 'n' roll and make it real, exciting, fun, colorful, sexy and decadent. We're trying to bring it back to the values that we think it stands for, which are sex, good times, fast living and stuff that teenagers can't find in any type of pop music nowadays.

SC: That's easy. Because the way our songs are, the whole idea about us is to keep rock 'n' roll alive. So if you don't [give a shit], it'll die with us and everybody else.

Aren't you too old to be doing this?

PP: Hell no, no way. Never. I'll be playing until I'm dead. I've already played for 20 years, so I'll keep playing another 20. I'm 30, and I started playing when I was 10.

SC: No, because I think that the rock generation has nothing to do with the "youth" thing. I think that's a marketing convention that major labels do to use people in the bands, to make them believe that you gotta be young. When they're real young and naive, they can just stick 'em on the road and make 'em whores for the major labels. The labels are their pimps.

What's up with the name?

PP: We had heard of NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) before, but for some reason we didn't know that chicken hawk was the slang for NAMBLA. Betsy named the band after that little guy on Foghorn Leghorn. It's a really innocent name. Seriously. It's just that little guy that goes, "I'm going to go get me a chicken." The little brown chicken hawk guy, Henry Hawk. That's why we named the band.

SC: Rocket from the Crypt had just started, and I was thinking, "Oh, like Rocket from the Tombs, who used to be the Dead Boys." Then I remembered [the Dead Boys'] other band was called Frankenstein. Then I was thinking "Electric" because of guitars--they're called electric Frankensteins when you piece different ones together. Also, people who were into the New York Dolls' whole gender thing were called Frankensteins. At the same time, I found out that in Milan there's a club called Electric Frankenstein.

Don't you think rock 'n' roll sucks?

PP: I'm passionately in love with rock 'n' roll and believe in actually fighting for it and proving to people that it still exists. The current state of rock 'n' roll definitely sucks, absolutely. The only thing you can even remotely connect to rock 'n' roll is Korn and Marilyn Manson. This is the first generation of young people growing up without rock 'n' roll. It's really fucking sad. We'd really like to see things shift back to the way it was, when arenas were filled with dope-smoking, vomiting teenagers listening to really loud, irresponsible music. That doesn't happen anymore. What can a kid listen to, Matchbox 20? No, they're gonna go where all the hot chicks and the crime and all the dope is, and that's rap. That's why so many white kids listen to rap.

SC: Well, I think "alternative" music sucks, but I don't call that music "rock." I can't even remember the songs after they've finished playing the record. That's totally different than when you listen to things where you're younger, and you hear the first Damned album, or the Stones, the Who, the Stooges. You put them on and never forget them. I still don't.

What band would you pay to play with?

PP: No one. I won't pay to play. Ever. Anywhere. For any reason. I mean, barring maybe the Stones in a stadium. If you're talking about a club, no way, wouldn't do it.

SC: Monster Magnet. I love all that stoner rock. (Laughs) It's just more fun to be at one of those shows than one of those dumb shows where everyone slam dances.

Tuning--does it matter?

PP: About a third of the time we're hopelessly out of tune, so it matters, but it's kind of a plateau to reach.

SC: I don't try to be super, super precise, but it's crappy when everything sounds like a big sludgeball. The thing about rock 'n' roll is that when everything's set up right, it's got this ringing tone that goes through your whole body. So you should at least be in a semblance of tuning. We're doing songs like Black Flag used to do, where there are jazz chords that make it sound dissonant. You have to really know how to play so it doesn't sound like crap.

Tell us about your most memorable show.

PP: Our first road trip in '95, we played a coffee shop in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Back then we were really birthday party-type crap noise. Loud, loud, loud, loud. We played at a hippie coffee shop, and people were just fleeing and panicking. Betsy was hopping up and down wearing a full cat suit.

SC: We just played a show in Costa Mesa where it was sold out, lines around the block. We played brand-new songs from the new album, and everyone started screaming. Then girls started taking off their bras and throwing them at us. (Laughs) That was pretty good.

A good rock 'n' roller puts out (blank) number of records a year?

PP: Boy, I would say one.

SC: A good one puts out something every three months, or people forget about you really fast. There are so many crappy bands that in order for you to push them out of your way, you have to put out a lot of records. What do we have? Like 25 records? We've sold over 75,000 copies.

Describe your lust for life.

PP: Our kitties, Nico and Patti, touring and WOW! potato chips.

SC: Pretty much a great song and how that vibrates out to everything else I do.

What do you think of ... Electric Frankenstein?

PP: We like Electric Frankenstein. I would say This Is Now is one of the top 10 records of the '90s.

... and the Chicken Hawks?

SC: They're really good. Pete used to call me, but then I moved.

 

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Willamette Week | originally published March 31, 1999

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