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Lillian Faderman


BY SARAH DOUGHER
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photo by Basil Childers

Lillian Faderman is a lesbian expert. The academic historian's books Odd Girls and Twilight Lovers, Surpassing the Love of Men and Chloe Plus Olivia constitute essential elements of any lesbian history 101. Her books are dense with research yet remain superbly readable. Her new work, To Believe in Women: What Lesbians Have Done for America­A History, studies relationships between women in the period between the end of the Civil War and the beginning of World War I. Hold on to your Susan B. Anthony dollars, all you fans o' lesbos--Faderman uses the suffragette queen's letters to prove she liked the ladies.

Willamette Week: Do you ever get tired of talking about lesbians?

Lillian Faderman: No, but I did do a book in between Chloe Plus Olivia on a subject very dear to my heart--immigrants in America--called I Begin My Life All Over: The Hmong and the American Immigrant Experience. There is a very large Hmong community in Fresno, about 35,000, and a lot of them are my students.

Do you have any groupies?

I get nice letters from people. I have some students who are devoted, but I don't have Madonna- or Ani DiFranco-type groupies.

There's a common perception that you can tell a lesbian by her shoes. Do you wear sensible shoes?

No, not unless I'm at the gym, which isn't often enough.

What's your next book going to be about?

My mother. The working title is A Paternity Suit and a War. I was born in 1940, and just at that time two huge things happened in her life. She was an immigrant from Eastern Europe, and the idea was that she would try to strike it rich, marry a rich man and bring the rest of her family to the United States. That never happened, and shortly after I was born, Hitler marched through my mother's shtetl and the whole family was wiped out. So she was dealing with that. But also, my father is a man with whom she had an eight-year affair. He had asked her to have two abortions, and he wanted me to be the third. She sued him for paternity and lost the suit. So she was dealing with both a small war--a war between the sexes--and this huge war and its effects.

What's your favorite lesbian movie?

I absolutely love High Art. There are a lot of lesbian movies that I really don't like. I wasn't delighted with Go Fish.

What kind of music do you listen to?

Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Marlene Dietrich, Dinah Washington.

Did you come across things in your research that actually shocked you?

A lot of things blew my mind with excitement. For instance, I suspected I'd find things about Susan B. Anthony. There have been other biographies that have hinted at her letters with Anna Dickinson. I didn't know I would find things about Susan B. Anthony and a woman whom she called in several letters her "lover." And when she used the word lover, she did not use that word synonymously with "fan"--she had a lot of fans, younger women whom she called her "nieces."

Do you have dreams about the women you write about?

No, not dreams exactly, but I feel they are very much with me. I don't mean to sound mystical, but I know a lot of them would bless this book. They would be perfectly happy to be outed in this day and age.


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Willamette Week | originally published August 11, 1999


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