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February 2nd, 2011 WW Editorial Staff | Rogue of the Week
 

Rogue Of The Week: “50s Bikeway” Haters

Seeing problems where there aren’t any.

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About 150 Portlanders filled a gym last week in the Woodstock neighborhood to hear city officials pitch a new 4 1/2-mile bike route going through the neighborhood.

The Rogue Desk notes the location for the city’s Jan. 26 open house—Our Lady of Sorrows Parish—couldn’t have been more apt. The sorrow on display by supposedly parking-starved residents at the city’s presentation for its “50s bikeway” (so named because the proposed route runs from Northeast Thompson Street and 57th Avenue south to Southeast Woodstock Boulevard and 52nd Avenue) was of apocalyptic proportions. 

Blame the frigid winter temperatures for our crankiness, but the NIMBYish arguing over roadways means the Rogue Desk is naming the neighbors hating on Portland’s 50s bikeway Rogues of the Week.  

If they had a legitimate concern, we’d listen. But most of the whining last week had to do with what some Portlanders consider an inalienable right—free on-street parking. A map of the proposed bikeway filled an entire wall of the gym, and city officials invited attendees to write their comments on Post-it notes they could then stick to the map.

“Don’t take away parking on 52nd,” one read. “This is a terrible idea!” “What about the elderly?” asked another, with no explanation for what that meant. “Nobody bikes here anyway,” asserted another.

Actually, compared with elsewhere in the city, nobody parks on 52nd Avenue. The proposal would eliminate parking on one side of 52nd Ave. A study of the area showed a peak use of 30 percent for those spots.

Our final note from the evening of the open house, at 6:30 pm: The Rogue Desk spotted one car parked on the 12-block stretch of Southeast 52nd Avenue between Holgate and Woodstock. 

 
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02.02.2011 at 01:32 Reply

So in less than a month you've now caricatured and dismissed with Rogue status two groups of Portlanders with legitimate concerns about issues that affect them (Alameda parents and people living along the NE/SE 50s Bikeway). For all your anti-establishment posing, you're awfully quick to disparage citizen involvement. If you were around in the early 70s, I'm sure you would have given a Rogue to the "haters" organizing to stop the Mt Hood Freeway.

 

03.03.2011 at 10:17

piff

 

02.02.2011 at 02:43 Reply

I had to drive this morning.  Just today I had a rant to my passenger about the storage of private property on public streets.

 

 

02.02.2011 at 03:46 Reply

@ Davey_Blun That's not really fair. Think about the two groups-- people who can't imagine having to struggle to park directly in front of their house even if it makes their neighborhood more bike-friendly, and rich white people who are afraid of sending their kids to a diverse school district rather than an overcrowded rich-kid public school. Not exactly the same type of people as people who support a massive and unneeded highway through the residential part of the city.

As someone who lived in the Woodstock area until moving to Alberta St recently, I think a bike lane along 52nd is a fantastic idea! There's one on 41st, but it's a little more flat ten blocks further east. Sounds like a great route to get to Hawthorne, one I would have used regularly. That said, I'd like to see a bike lane on Foster even more (it's crazy scary biking on that street), whether it creates a bit of a parking disaster or not.

 

02.03.2011 at 10:55

Grimnir,

I think you're oversimplifying the issues and the reasons why people would have concerns about them. Parking (or the lack thereof) can have an affect on property values, and people make choices about where to live based on the schools they think they want their kids to go to. Clearly you feel differently, and that's fine; I just think it's unhelpful to dismiss out-of-hand as "rogue" the complaints of people who might have legitimate concerns.

For what it's worth, I happen to support the bikeway project, and I agree some people's arguments against it don't really carry a lot of water. But it's easy for me to think that way because I'm not directly impacted by it, and I'm guessing you're not either. If something happened that affected you, your career, your home, your children, or your neighborhood that you didn't like, I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate being called a NIMBY and a "Rogue".

 

02.02.2011 at 04:49 Reply
It is not the bicyclists that financially support bicycle infrastructure, rather the motorists who drive and pay fuel taxes whom the freeloading bicyclist activists often despise and systematically raid resources from. If anybody should be called “rogue”, it should be the spandex-clad pedal pushing car haters that routinely that want all this specialized bicycle infrastructure as long as somebody else pays for it. Ten percent of the jobs in the US are tied to the auto industry. One less driver and one more bicyclist is one less taxpayer contributing to transportation infrastructure. Multiplied many times over, private sector jobs are lost only to be replaced by jobs in the public sector or non-self-sustaining jobs in the private sector that must be financed or subsidized by taxpayers. In other words, a real Ponzi scheme. For whatever reason, hardcore bicyclist activists think themselves so important they should have the freedom to ignore traffic control devices and the rules of the road while expecting drivers to operate their vehicles safely and get out of the way for them. Moreover these kamikaze style bicyclists refuse to accept the concept of mandatory helmet laws or license and registration fees to fund their own priorities. In that sustainability starts with financial self-sustainability, it is past due time to establish taxpayer equity in the area of transport funding, an about face “change in direction” whereby the users of alternative forms of transport - including bicyclists – to directly pay a substantial share of the costs for the infrastructure they regularly use and rant for. Until bicyclists accept some accountability and the financial responsibility to pay for bicycle infrastructure; it is the boisterous bicycle advocates that wear the true colors of being rogue.

 

02.03.2011 at 01:33

Terry Parker (hater) - You are calling bicyclists out for not paying for the streets?  The truth is that motorists don't pay enough for the streets - they are the freeloaders.  Very little of the cost of building, repairing, or maintaining the local streets come from your precious fuel taxes.  Fuel taxes go mainly to funding state and federal highway projects.  Property, sales, business, and income taxes fund the cost of building, repairing, or maintaining the local streets.  Get your facts right before you spew such blather!

 

02.03.2011 at 04:23

Terry, you never cease to crack me up. Show me, SHOW ME evidence that fuel tax pays for local arterials and residential streets. SHOW ME TERRY!!!

I do appreciate the Libertarian philosophy, but i can't understand how you just dismiss facts. fuel taxes don't cover the cost of roads, by a long long way. everyone subsidizes automobiles whether they drive or not.

'kamikaze style cyclists' - why all the hate, Terry, WHY!?

 

02.11.2011 at 09:44

OH YESSSSSSSSS!!!

 

02.17.2011 at 07:40

Some hyperbole, but there is a entitled position by some bike riders, and an apathy to rule and coexistence. What's that analogy regading flies and honey. Homeowners having the lane seemingly pushed down their throat have a right to be upset.

 

02.24.2011 at 02:15

I don't own a car or a bicycle.  I ride the bus, rent a zip car or I walk.  I live downtown.  To say that bicyclists don't pay taxes is just ridiculous because honestly we all pay taxes.  Terry Parker lives not in the real world obviously.

 

 

02.02.2011 at 04:57 Reply

Thanks WW for covering this issue and for taking the correct position on it.

The point I would disagree with is the implication that there was a lot of dissenters at this meeting. In fact there was an almost embarrassingly small number of people concerned about the loss of a couple of parking spaces, compared with scores of people who very much supported the concept.

As a member of the Citizen Advisory Committee that has been studying these details for many months, I can tell you that the individual neighbors, neighborhood associations and business groups in southeast are almost universal in wanted this project to happen.

In the beginning, I was particularly sympathetic to the people who really need their on-street parking space. But the more I dug into the details of the project the more I realized that the number of people for whom parking on street is their only option is ZERO. That's right: the spaces that may be removed are, in EVERY case, someone's ADDITIONAL parking space, and the griping is over whether these people should have to walk a few additional feet in order to access their public on-street storage space.

Given the significant current safety issues for bicyclists and pedestrians along this corridor, keeping the staus quo in order to protect someone's "right" to store their extra vehicle on the street is pure nonsense.

This bikeway is a great project for an area of town that has not gotten nearly the support it deserves.

 

02.02.2011 at 08:16

You clearly don't know where the money for roads comes from, and you clearly don't understand that most cyclists still drive cars too.

 

 
 

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