Kafoury: Okay. The [Portland Police] Criminal Intelligence Unit does monitor protest events?
Kafoury: Do they sometimes have their people in plainclothes mingling with the crowds?
Nice: Common. Depends on the event.
Kafoury: OK. Are off-duty officers allowed to carry concealed weapons without a concealed-weapons permit?
Kafoury: Just because they are officers?
Kafoury: OK. And that authority comes from the police bureau?
Nice: Actually, there was a national law passed a couple years ago that allowed that. But before that, yes, it was state law.
Kafoury: And that's also part of the policy of the Portland police?
Nice: I don't know if we have a specific policy about it. I think it's — that power is given us to [sic] by ORS.
Kafoury: And it's well known among — it's well known in the police department that a lot of officers carry weapons off-duty or carry weapons when they are not on the clock?
Nice: Yeah, I would say it's about 50, 60 percent.
Kafoury: And without being any more specific, what county is your residence?
Kafoury: Thank you. That's all I have.
Landrum: Who is that?
Kafoury: I have to serve some papers.
Landrum: On who, Nice?
Kafoury: Yeah, on Sgt. Nice.
Landrum: Is that why you were asking those questions about the guns? So, you were using this deposition for some purpose other than this case. Is that right?
Kafoury: You got a problem?
Landrum: Say it on the record. Were you? Were you?
Kafoury: I'm not being deposed, counsel.
Laundrum: You were, weren't you?
Kafoury: I'm not here to be deposed. And I don't have to answer your question.
Landrum: That's going to be trouble.
Kafoury: Well, you can bitch to high heaven. Please serve the gentleman.