Joe Walsh
Greg Kafoury
Kyle Nice
David Landrum
Kafoury: Okay. The [Portland Police] Criminal Intelligence Unit does monitor protest events?

Nice: Yes.

Kafoury: Do they sometimes have their people in plainclothes mingling with the crowds?

Nice: Yes.

Kafoury: Common?

Nice: Common. Depends on the event.

Kafoury: OK. Are off-duty officers allowed to carry concealed weapons without a concealed-weapons permit?

Nice: Yes.

Kafoury: Just because they are officers?

Nice: Yes.

Kafoury: OK. And that authority comes from the police bureau?

Nice: Actually, there was a national law passed a couple years ago that allowed that. But before that, yes, it was state law.

Kafoury: And that's also part of the policy of the Portland police?

Nice: I don't know if we have a specific policy about it. I think it's — that power is given us to [sic] by ORS.

Kafoury: And it's well known among — it's well known in the police department that a lot of officers carry weapons off-duty or carry weapons when they are not on the clock?

Nice: Yeah, I would say it's about 50, 60 percent.

Kafoury: And without being any more specific, what county is your residence?

Nice: Mine?

Kafoury: Yeah.

Nice: Washington.

Kafoury: Thank you. That's all I have.
Landrum: Who is that?

Kafoury: I have to serve some papers.

Landrum: On who, Nice?

Kafoury: Yeah, on Sgt. Nice.

Landrum: Is that why you were asking those questions about the guns? So, you were using this deposition for some purpose other than this case. Is that right?

Kafoury: You got a problem?

Landrum: Say it on the record. Were you? Were you?

Kafoury: I'm not being deposed, counsel.

Laundrum: You were, weren't you?

Kafoury: I'm not here to be deposed. And I don't have to answer your question.

Landrum: That's going to be trouble.

Kafoury: Well, you can bitch to high heaven. Please serve the gentleman.