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May 29th, 2002 | Letters to the Editor
 

letters May 29, 2002

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WHAT WERE THEY SMOKING?
Your interview with Gov. Gary Johnson ["What's He Smoking," WW, May 22, 2002] states that he is the highest elected official to ever support legalizing marijuana, but that's a little misleading. Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York, a city with a greater population than all of New Mexico, supported legalizing marijuana clear back in the 1930s. And President Jimmy Carter supported decriminalizing marijuana in the 1970s. We just don't know about these things because of the moronic drug war and the deliberate miseducation of the American public by the Right Wing.

I hope that Gov. Johnson's message will at least get people interested in the discussion, maybe even enough to learn more about the shameful and deceitful history of the War on Drugs. For more information, I recommend the great documentary Grass.

Ken Olson
Northeast 20th Avenue

BUT WHY DO THEY CALL IT DOPE?
I am sure that this letter is only one of many from the millions of enraged stoners in the Portland metro area regarding John Scalzi's article in the May 22 issue of WW: "Pot Culture: Legalize It--and Kill It." However funny the article may have been (and it was), it is clear that this guy had no fucking idea what he was talking about in several instances. Here is one example.

As for pot making someone "verifiably more stupid," he is probably referring to the results of the now thoroughly debunked Heath/Tulane University studies in 1974, which in the end provided science with one inarguable conclusion: that when one straps a rhesus monkey into a chair with a gas mask sealed onto its face so that no smoke escapes, and then fills the mask with an asphyxiating volume of pot smoke (equivalent to over 60 joints) that precludes the admission of oxygen into the mask for five minutes, it will indeed cause brain damage to the unlucky little guy.

This study was (and amazingly enough still is) used to prove, according to an L.A. Times article shortly after the results of the study were released, that "permanent brain damage is one of the inevitable results of the use of marijuana." Interesting conclusion, given the actual methodology of the research. Numerous other studies of dubious scientific quality in the '70s and the Reagan '80s were used to reach similar conclusions.

Pot doesn't make you "verifiably more stupid" in the long term. Dissemination of this kind of misinformation is dangerous, because it undermines the credibility of real warnings against truly dangerous drugs such as heroin, methamphetamines and cocaine.

Lorin Wilkerson
Sellwood

BACCHANALIA BACK ON ALLA YA
Thank you for your article about the FBI's investigation of Reed College's Renn Fayre [Rogue of the Week, WW, April 24, 2002]. You correctly reported that RF can be, for some of its participants, quite a Dionysiac festival. You may be familiar with an ancient Greek tragedy that every Reed freshling is required to read: The Bacchae by Euripides. To refresh your mind, the King of Thebes' grandson, Pentheus, has a mind to persecute the local cult of Dionysus, but he does not realize that Bacchus himself is presiding over the event. Pentheus is lured into personally investigating, but the bacchic revelers (who include his own mother) detect his presence. His mom, thinking him a lion, in her delusion tragically rips her own son's head off and brings it back to her father, the King.

In a funny way, the sending of agents to Reed seems a bit like Pentheus going to spy on the Bacchae in their revelries. Is it out of a desire to persecute, or is it out of repressed fascination? Perhaps the agents will realize what poor, deprived lives they have been living; perhaps they will question why they ever became FBI agents in the first place. Maybe they'll even have a cockroach or two. Hopefully, no tragedy will occur, and if anything, their "heads" (i.e. intellects, understandings, souls) will be served back to their commanding officers in quite different form.

J.S. Gilbert
Reed junior (studying abroad)
Rome, Italy

CALLAHAN'S THE HYPOCRITE
In his April 24 cartoon, John Callahan slams animal-rights/vegetarian activists for being hypocrites if they are pro-choice on matters of abortion. The truth is that abortion is usually an act of desperation, while in our land of plenty, eating meat all the time is a choice people callously and unnecessarily make, as they have other choices of how to fulfill their nutritional needs (and the desires of their tastebuds, whether they realize it or not). Is torturing and killing an animal that has the sentience of a human the same as aborting a fetus that has never known conscious life? To right-wingers, a human life should never be taken (even if the human is in irreversible pain and wants to end his own life) while an animal's life, feelings and well-being are always game for destruction.

Instead of opposing abortion yet hypocritically making fun of animal-rights folks, why don't right-wingers develop a consistent ethic and oppose killing of both fetuses and animals? Or advocate for cultural change in favor of respecting life while disseminating information about alternatives to both types of killing, as Planned Parenthood and PETA do for their respective causes? Perhaps because no matter how many stones they throw at others, it is obvious that hypocrisy is central to the follow-the-old-ways-no-matter-how-inconsistent-they-are mentality of Callahan and other right-wingers.

Tom Soppe
Southwest Alfred Street

 
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05.29.2002 at 11:26 Reply
"Callahan's the Hypo" editorial Right wing, left wing. Who should we ride with. Both are comprised and more importantly led by non-thinking, fundaMENTAList jackasses. Right or left, neither school wants to be confused with the facts. My point is: Tom, its not wrong to eat meat just because you like the furry cows and cute chickens. Humans are omnivorous. We are meat eaters as well as plant eaters by design. We come complete with molars for grinding (kinda like a moo-cow) and canines for tearing (ghrrrr, look at me. I'm a scary wolf). Instead of condemning the rest of the world for failing to recognize the brilliance that is Tom's moral skein, try using your head. Its feeling a little light I'm sure. Efficient oxygen transfer to red blood cells is hard when your iron defficient. Although green vegetables are iron rich, they pale in comparison (no pun intended)to animal blood.Really, no creature should be bread only to live a hellish life and die a heinous death at the hands of its consumer. As a civilized society, it would be more than reasonable for one (this is where you come in Tom) to demand that all creatures raised for our consumption be raised in a humane fashion (not in veal tents or 3x6 prisons) and die a quick and pain/anxiety free death. We have a long way to go before these simple concepts of humanity are excepted or even humored. How can the folks from the church of vegan think they are doing anything good for the furry cows and cute chickees by touting thier ridiculous, "tofu or die", platform. Those of us caught in the middle just can't sympathize. We're hungry. I am pro-choice. I'm a dude. Its none of my business. But abortion rights and animal rights are never going to be on the same level. Not from a left wing view or from the right. —Zack Michaelis

 

07.19.2002 at 06:51 Reply
Zack's post #r?5'm glad Zack wants animals to be raised much more humanely. And I think it is a legitimate and intriguing question as to what we naturally should eat. I will always choose and encourage choosing not to eat animals at all, but I would certainly be much happier if things were at least much more humane than they are now. So if that's being "tofu or die" I guess that is what I am. If we ate like our closest chimp relatives we'd eat mostly vegetarian plus a few bugs and other small animals, but not cows or pigs. And how are vegans not helping the cause by showing the logic behind not eating animals, treating them better, and such- not to mention proving that people can live successfully and happily as vegans. Such examples have converted many people to being vegan, vegetarian, or just eating a lot less meat than before. And that helps the animals and the people. —Tom Soppe

 

08.12.2002 at 12:51 Reply
Zack proven wrong in more ways than one Zack's message claims people need to eat meat to be healthy (which is quite ridiculous, veganism or no veganism, when you consider how many vegetarians are out there being healthy as well as the vegans). Then a later WW article quoted multiple scientifically knowledgable people who claimed being vegan was perfectly viable. What was your scientific degree in Zack? Namecallingology? Then he insinuates animal rights can never get anywhere in the politics of the real world, but not long after his post (Or was it even before? I think after.) Germany added some basic rights for animals into their constitution. Zack's ideas keep getting proven wrong. It's funny he considers other people to be the narrow-minded out-of-touch extremists when he's the one who doesn't realize either the scientific facts about these things or the current political milestones of other major countries. He claims vegans only are vegan because they have a personal affinity for the "cowees" and "chickees", which is kind of untrue and condescending considering the environmental reasons to be vegan and the fact that most vegans and vegetarians base their diets on not hurting sentient life, rather than not hurting cute life. We don't eat mole rats in case you haven't noticed.I commend Zack though for caring about farm animal treatment; my question is can the world's environment handle that much land being relegated for free range animals if billions of people want to eat meat on a daily basis? Are the factory farms necessary for demand at this time if many more people don't go veggie? I haven't sat down and figured this one out mathematically, but I bet so. Either way the mass production of meat is awful for the environment that sustains us. This all makes me ask the question, why does Zack think he can justify eating meat just because he enjoys eating the cowees and chickees? —Luna Daly

 

 
 

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