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December 7th, 2011 EMILY GREEN | Q & A
 

Hotseat: Jarrett Walker

A Portland transit expert says we shouldn’t fall in love with trains when buses will do.

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Jarrett Walker says he first fell in love with mass transit when he started riding buses around Portland at age 10. By age 14, he was calling TriMet to ask questions and offer suggestions for improvement.

Today Walker, 49, is public-transit consultant and author of HumanTransit.org, a transportation blog. His new book, Human Transit: How Clearer Thinking About Public Transit Can Enrich Our Communities and Our Lives (Island Press, 235 pages, $35), discusses what he’s learned working around the world studying and working on mass transit systems.

Walker has just moved back to Portland after living and working for five years in Australia. WW talked to him about why emotional discussions regarding mass transit sometimes get in the way of smart planning, and he spoke about the hard transit choices that are facing TriMet and the region.

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: You call yourself a transit geek from an early age.

Jarrett Walker: I was interested in how the bus system worked. I knew the routes and the timetables. Fortunately, there were people at TriMet who were willing to answer my questions when I called them up. I learned it was not a big faceless machine, and I was encouraged to keep thinking about transit issues.

You’ve written that the choice of technology in transit—bus or train—is not one of the most crucial decisions.

The most controversial suggestion I’ve ever made is that we might want to think about public transit as though its purpose is to help people get where they’re going.

I am interested in transit as an instrument of freedom. If we look at transit from that point of view, what really matters is speed, frequency, reliability and span, which means how long a service runs, whether it’s there all day or not. And those variables are just not related to whether we’re on rails or tires.

Can you give an example?

The Portland Streetcar has done a lot of good for the Pearl District, but it was introduced as a development tool, and as it was presented, it was always very clear that the emotional attraction of the vehicle itself was an important part of why we should build it.

Why should we build a streetcar instead of just running a really good bus service? We’re moving into a much leaner time. We may start having different conversations about how important it is to have emotionally appealing vehicles, as opposed to creating a system that maximizes people’s personal freedom.

What city has the best mass transit system in the world?
I have an attachment to Paris because of what it is continuing to do in the area of growth, despite everything they’ve already achieved. In the last decade, Paris has installed bus lanes on almost all of its boulevards. It’s continuing to evolve and improve, to make courageous investments.

How will mass transit change in the U.S. over the next 30 years or so?

Cities are the drivers of innovation in an information-based, creativity-based economy, which is what we increasingly have. Cities, in turn, are not going to be sustainable without high quality in the big, sustainable transport modes: walking, cycling and public transit. We can expect a future where the qualities of public transit we are now used to encountering, say, in Europe, become more common here. 

If you ride around in Northern European cities, transit is ordinary, it’s expected, it is a favored mode—alongside cycling and walking. It’s of high quality. When you are using transit in Northern or Western Europe, [it’s clear] that you are an important and valued citizen. That is obviously not always clear in transit experiences in North America. Although I think that by the standards of some U.S. cities, Portland is in fairly good shape on that.

TriMet was the first system you studied. What concerns you about it now?

The design of the network is good. But TriMet faces a set of problems almost all U.S. transit agencies are having. They include unsustainable pension costs and very volatile funding sources. In TriMet’s case, it relies heavily on payroll taxes, and obviously that’s the first thing that goes down in a recession.

Where can TriMet improve?

Personally I wish TriMet could focus on restoring what’s called the frequent transit network. That’s the set of lines that are designed to run every 15 minutes, or better, all day so you don’t have to use a timetable to use them. You can just show up at a bus stop and know something’s coming soon. 

That’s a very important concept particularly on the east side of Portland, where these lines are designed to fit together into a big grid so you can go more or less anywhere with a single transfer. In the last major service cut, TriMet had to step over a very important quality threshold by cutting the frequent transit network—buses that run worse than every 15 minutes. TriMet knows that, and they know they need to get those services back.  

 
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12.07.2011 at 06:03 Reply

Mr. Walker, while raising timely issues about transit's effectiveness in tight times, missed the opportunity to compare other technologies and financing options. Take personal rapid transit, or PRT. It's still improving, but we should be studying its use and cost-effectivenes. As an on-demand system, it has the potential to use one one-hundreth of the power as light rail with a mag-lev design, but it may also approach self-financing once constructed. It could be faster than using a car, too. Santa Cruz and St. Paul, among several other cities, are checking out various models.

If Mr. Walker attended Rail-Volution last year here, he might have attended a packed workshop on capturing the publicly created value along transit lines. Bus stops, sadly, just don't boost zoning and amenities to raise land values. Rail and, eventually, PRT stations often do, however. With a tool that just captures these potential windfalls in land values, like an enterprise zone does, and leaving buildings alone, the transit-friendly developments and, perhaps, some of the capital costs can be well-financed. They're called transit benefit districts...and they deserve to be tested here.

 

12.10.2011 at 07:52

Bus stops, sadly, just don't boost zoning and amenities to raise land values.


The problem with Portland is that too many of the anti-bus folks look at Portland and decry what TriMet is doing as the problem with the system.

The reality is that there are excellent bus stop designs out there that can encourage transit ridership, encourage community, encourage businesses to locate near it, and increase land values.

TriMet, however, has abandoned any concept of improving bus stops.  A 12 inch by 18 inch bus stop sign tacked up to a PGE pole is TriMet's best attempt at a bus stop.  It's PATHETIC.

On the other hand, we bend over backwards to build Streetcar and MAX stops.

Why the discrepancy?  Why can't be build the exact same style of stop for a bus, as we do a Streetcar?

Look at the BRT bus stop designs used by Eugene and Snohomish County and King County.  Look at the bus stops in place in the Anaheim Resort (a.k.a. Disneyland) area.  They are fully built out stops with excellent amenities.  They aren't no 12x18 inch blue and white bus stop sign on the side of the road where waiting riders are expected to stand in the road's drainage ditch.

The question:  Why isn't TriMet doing it?  We can do better.  We should do better.  There's no reason not to do better.  Except that when it comes to transit in Portland, the powers-that-be have their little rail blinders on and believe that rail is the ONLY solution, and there's no way to improve buses.  That's why transit agencies all across the world are rapidly increasing ridership across all modes, while TriMet seems content with year after year of bus ridership declines that are not in parity with MAX ridership increases.

 

12.13.2011 at 06:24

Kris, while PRT is a very interesting idea, it is not a form of mass transit. It would indeed be a more efficient method of moving around single-occupancy vehicles, and could be very valuable in low-density suburbs. It would not really have many advantages in a high-density area suited to mass transit. I'm tired of hearing PRT boosters trying to take over discussions of how to improve mass transit--it is not the same thing!

Your comments about bus service not driving land values is also misplaced. As another commenter noted, a lot of that in Portland has to do with poor bus stop design. TriMet has chosen to have very close stop spacing with minimal amenities, and also does not have high enough frequencies. Many cities have excellent rapid bus services that certainly drive locational decisions and land values. Even in Seattle, which doesn't have many great bus lines, I have seen craigslist apartment ads using nearby bus lines as a selling point. If TriMet had better stops and a better frequent network, that could be the case here as well.

You also should know that Mr. Walker was at Rail-Volution last year. He gave an excellent presentation.

 

12.07.2011 at 09:21 Reply

Kris,

What is personal rapid transit PRT??

 

12.08.2011 at 12:57

Using small "pods" on a guideway, riders get on-demand service. Designs vary, but on-off service to stations are common. Check out Citizens for PRT: http://www.cprt.org/CPRT/Home.html for international projects.

 

12.15.2011 at 06:47

Zef, you raise a valid question about capacity of PRT. Some systems don't provide comparible seats/hour as light rail, for example, but at least two PRT technologies do. One is JPods: http://www.jpods.com/HomeMassTransit.html. As these and other technologies are developed, the just-in-time benefits over batch service become apparent.

Based on the track record of bus rapid transit systems, even with better designed stations, the record of land value effects shows they don't have the uplift of transit stations. One example is in Eugene. Sure, some apartment owners will try and tout their locational value, but overall the assessments don't reveal the more reliable increases around transit stations; that said, street car stations generally haven't added the land value that TOD-developed light rail stations have. Let's face it: the capacities are quite different, so the development effects reflect those differences.

The central point, nonetheless, is that transit finance has failed to capture the publicly created land values associated with transit-oriented development. Using conventional approaches, such as LIDs, that impose a disincentive by collecting fees on improvements are counter-productive.

 

12.07.2011 at 09:35 Reply

my vote is for buses, bikes, and Electric Bikes (e-bikes)!

 

12.09.2011 at 10:49 Reply

I always thought a system like the skylink @DFW would be good.  or the vacuum pods at the banks that give your check a ride!

 

 
 

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