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October 10th, 2001 Byron Beck, Sarah Dougher | Queer Window
 

Trans America

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Recently I visited with local lesbian activist/indie rocker Sarah Dougher, and we got to talking about the trans movement. Even though I write a weekly column on queer issues, I've hardly uncovered the real day-to-day issues transgender and transsexual people face. Sarah told me about how she's on a lesbian-run record label that's being boycotted by some trans activists. She and I had lengthy discussions about this movement, and I was taken with her passion. So, for the first time ever, I'm letting someone else take up my Queer Window window. Here's Sarah's take:

I record for Mr. Lady Records, a label devoted to queer independent music and video, that's become the target of some trans activists. Why? Two bands who perform on our label--The Butchies and Le Tigre--have played at the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival.

The MWMF has what it calls a "womyn born womyn" policy, which excludes most men and self-identified trans people. The festival, over 25 years old, has its roots in the lesbian separatist politics of the 1970s. MWMF has struggled to keep up with the times, but it hasn't changed its policy.

Because Mr. Lady bands take part in MWMF, some trans activists think the label should be boycotted. In addition, the people who run the label have been threatened with violence and harassed for almost three years by activists who demand both an apology for playing the fest and the adoption of a position against the exclusionary practices of MWMF.

I think it's important to recognize the diversity within all radical movements (especially marginalized ones) and to resist the pressures popular culture places on these movements. The mainstream wants all gay and lesbian people to be alike, all trans people to be alike and, most of all, everyone to be just like them. It's this attempt to put people in boxes that takes away marginalized people's power. And it's this kind of pressure that causes what would otherwise be allied forces to fight each other. Perhaps more importantly, activists need to resist this tendency themselves. Our challenge is to respectfully address the issues that cause us to fight each other instead of our common foes--and then to work together to fight them.

Mr. Lady produces art that advocates for the rights of women, queers and trans people. For some artists on the label, it's important to acknowledge and honor the histories of the queer and feminist movements at the same time. MWMF is a "womyn's only" space--this is still a radical and exciting notion in a society where sexism still exists. But what's an even more radical notion is that this category--"womyn only"--is faulty. This is exactly what trans activism highlights.

Trans activism and art offers all of us amazing and transformative ways of understanding ourselves and how we relate to gender in our lives. Leslie Feinberg's book Stone Butch Blues, drag king shows and the film Hedwig are only a few that inspire. The trans movement shows us how deeply our prejudices and assumptions about gender rule us. Trans inclusion and the fight against transphobia should be a part of every political and cultural movement. It is up to trans and non-trans people alike to do this hard but necessary work.


The Butchies, The Gossip, Erase Errata
B Complex, 320 SE 2nd Ave 235-4424. 9 pm Tuesday, Oct. 16. $9+ advance (Fastixx). All ages.


Sarah Dougher's new album, Bluff, comes out on Mr. Lady in November.


Broadway on Broadway
Although it sounds like the above, it's not. This is host Andy Mangels' "Cabaret for America" (whatever that is), with performances by Miss America 1998 Kate Shindle and other cast members of Gypsy. Now, that's entertainment! The show is a benefit for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS, Camp Starlight and the Stonewall Community Foundation. The Embers, 110 NW Broadway, 8 pm Monday, Oct. 15. $5.


Out on Broadway
Author-soldier Grethe Cammermeyer and actor Barry Morse will join others for Out on Broadway, a stage show in honor of National Coming Out Day. Proceeds benefit Esther's Pantry. World Trade Center, 121 SW Salmon St., 408-7997, www.outonbroadway.com . 7 pm Thursday, Oct. 11. $45
 
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10.14.2001 at 10:49 Reply
Selling records, or selling out? After reading this article by Sarah Douger, and then re-reading, then for a third time, I had to ask many of my friends to intrepret her point. WHY IS HER ARTICLE EVEN IN WW? She makes no solid stand on trans issues, either in support or against. I feel it's insulting to have her article in WW instead of an educated trans advocate. Yeah, I have a guitar too, but I'm not about to publish an article about something I can't make a solid stand on. It's like she's afriad of speaking her own opinion because her record sales coud be in jeopardy, or offending the trans community and losing the support of her loyal baby-dykes. What's your point Sarah? Are you for or against? And what ever happened to the unity and support within the queer community? —Brandy Cvertnik

 

10.17.2001 at 03:31 Reply
sarah dougher responds10/17/01 I am on a label which is boycotted by some trans activists, and Byron Beck suggested I bring my side of the issue to a wider audience.As to making a solid stand on "trans issues" -- I am arguing for trans inclusion in the queer movement.(I write "Trans inclusion and the fight against transphobia should be a part of every political and cultural movement. It is up to trans and non-trans people alike to do this hard but necessary work; That seems clear to me.)I am also stating that a climate of intimidation and violence such as has been experienced by my colleages at mr. lady does not create a respectful climate for dialogue. I am not accusing all trans activists of violence. on the contrary, I am stating that within all radical movements there are many issues to fight and stances that people take. I am stating that violence and insults do not cut it in ANY of these situations.Maybe you could suggest to Byron the names of some educated trans activists whose voices you would like to see in the paper. Just because I'm not that, my voice should not be discounted. —sarah dougher

 

10.18.2001 at 05:16 Reply
BethX responds.... I feel the need to correct a few things Ms. Dougher alleges.<p>Firstly, despite what she says, she's on a label being boycotted by A SLEW of trans activists. Like this isn't 5 or 6 disgruntled folks. This is a few 1000. They are being boycotted because of statements made by the owners. Here, let me refresh Ms. Doughers mind as to what exactly the owners as well as the Butchies have publically stated.<p>"Based on our discussions with Lisa Vogel, the main organizer, we know that the MWMF started as a separatist event for womyn born womyn and we personally still feel the continued need for that kind of space and event."<p>This is what the owner of the label stand for. Now, as a self-respecting trans person, why the HELL should I give my money to them? <p>You can go check the entire statement for yourself at http://www.strap-on.org/<br>backlash.html lest I be accused of misquoting them.<p>As for any alleged violence, well, I have yet to see any single thing but unsubstantiated claims. I know for a FACT that every single protest of EVERY single band that plays MWMF has been peaceful with the exception of the assault of a protestor by a Le Tigre fan. I should note. I'm certain the Butchies get threats and insults thrown at them. They're out famous active lesbians living in North Carolina. It doesn't take a smarty pants to realize that you're prolly going to get threats at some point in time. However, this movement has ALWAYS endorsed non-violence and always will."Byron Beck suggested I bring my side the issue to a wider audience." Well, since this is a trans issue maybe it would have been more appropriate for Mr. Beck to, oh, I dunno, talk to some trans people involved with the protests? Yeah, I know, crazy concept..."I am arguing for trans inclusion in the queer movement."No, this is a skillful dodging of the question.Answer this, Ms. Dougher. Do you agree that transsexual women should be allowed into MWMF and that the woman-born-woman policy is transphobia?Cause some of your labelmates and the label owner certainly do not.As for dialog, the protestors have begged for dialog for 3 YEARS now. Every single request has been denied. Only until successful, non-violent protests have began have they even attempted to address this issue by issuing statement after statement of innuendo and deflection of the issue at hand; their support of a transphobic policy.Fine, y'all want dialog? So do we. Here is my email address: beth@bethx.com I'll set up a private email list on yahoo or something or we can do a conference call or hell, I'll even truck my ass down to Mr. Lady with protest folks in tow so we can all sit down and talk. I don't really expect to hear from you cause, well, I haven't in 3 years, why should I expect that to change?-BethX —BethX

 

 
 

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