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July 2nd, 2008 JAMES PITKIN | News
 

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Online chat about a Georgia weapons manufacturer ends in real-time Oregon court battle.

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Note to bloggers: Those rants you’ve been posting as “PDXFemme” or “BatBoy68” could get you hauled into court.

Ian Hale Garner, a gun enthusiast from central Oregon, is facing a federal lawsuit by a Georgia-based weapons manufacturer for anonymous comments he posted this spring in an online chat room.

The suit filed in U.S. District Court in Portland brings to Oregon a battle being fought around the country over the limits of free speech online. Bloggers elsewhere have been sued with mixed results for criticizing real-estate companies, writing negative book reviews and even disparaging Apple computers.

“There are free-speech issues we believe are part and parcel to the underlying dispute,” says Garner’s attorney, Michael McGean of Bend.

Garner, 30, claimed online that he’d heard silencers made by Advanced Armament Corporation produced inaccurate shots. He also alleged that an arms manufacturer had severed its contract with Advanced Armament over personal conflicts with the owners.

The company says the comments are false and the lawsuit seeks $200,000 for damage to its reputation.

The lawsuit claims Garner posted the comments as “ian187” and other nicknames in chat rooms on the websites AR15.com and SilencerResearch.com. Both sites are geared toward gun aficionados and the weapons industry.

“This case illustrates the worst of the Internet, in that a person sitting in Redmond, Ore., can destroy a company’s client or customer relationship through the click of a mouse,” says Michael Seidl, Advanced Armament’s Portland attorney. “The damage is impossible to quantify when a false rumor is spread.”

Seidl says Garner posted his comments where they could do maximum damage: chat rooms populated by people involved in the weapons industry. He says it wasn’t difficult to learn the identity of ian187 because Garner had registered with the chat rooms under his own name.

The federal Communications Decency Act of 1996 shields website owners from liability for content posted by users, making user-generated Web 2.0 sites like Craigslist and MySpace possible. But the law leaves the door open for claims against individuals who use the Web to post defamatory comments.

Seidl says the gauge for whether Garner slandered Advanced Armament is the same as everywhere else: If the comments were false and they harmed Advanced Armament, then Garner should be held liable.

McGean agrees the same standards apply to the Web, but he says what his client posted was true. He filed a motion June 4 asking U.S. Magistrate Judge Thomas Coffin to dismiss the case. Coffin has not yet ruled on the motion.

“There are many lawsuits that are filed by plaintiffs who are simply interested in quashing any kind of public criticism,” McGean says. “The objective is not to prevail (in court) but to bully the person into shutting up. And we feel that’s what is really going on here.”


FACT: Advanced Armament’s silencers sell for $350 to $3,195.

WWIRE: Read about another blog-linked lawsuit here.

 
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07.02.2008 at 06:10 Reply
“The damage is impossible to quantify when a false rumor is spread.”

So how does the plaintiff expect to win?

 

07.02.2008 at 06:29 Reply
Joe
The lawsuit is BS. AAC has been bothered that Ian knows the truth behind their constant "hinting" that they have contracts when they don't. They've stated they have contracts with big military suppliers to boost their civilian sales. They never did, Ian posted about it and they wanted to shut him up. Now that he stood his ground, AAC wants to seal the case up immediately.

I am an owner of firearms and silencers/suppressors. Ian's posts never deterred me from AAC. Their arrogant internet banter and directly lying to me in personal correspondence drove me from their products.

AAC never had contracts with the company they said they had contracts with. Feel free to sue me now AAC.

 

07.02.2008 at 06:56 Reply
Geez, the biggest hit and run defamatory company in the industry is suing an individual? AAC really has some nerve after the outright lies they have spread against their competition. They have been banned from several websites for their self-aggrandizing comments.

 

07.02.2008 at 07:24 Reply
Joe
And I also wanted to ad something:

This article is awful because it creates undertones that suggest you will be in trouble if you say what you want about a company online. Really all this article CAN say is that you should watch what you say if you don't want to be sued.

BUT, the better story lies in the fact that this "great" company is suing an individual for speaking the truth. unfortunately Ian won't "win" per se as this lawsuit will be thrown out due to it's frivolous nature.

I sure hope to see the article about the burden of frivolous lawsuits on our legal system and tax dollars in the upcoming weeks!

 

07.02.2008 at 07:40 Reply
PP
Ian didn't just make an opinionated comment about the company he said stuff like "Company X dropped AAC as a supplier."

AAC claims that this is not true, and is putting their money where their mouth is.

 

 
 

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